“I don’t talk to ghosts and I don’t talk to psychics because I am one,” says Shayne Lamas during her conversation with Nik Richie, adding, “I’m not a medium.”

The topic came up when Shayne was a guest on Nik’s podcast, Nik asked, “Speaking of science, do you still believe in all of that voodoo stuff, like charts and Tarot cards and all that weird stuff?”

Shayne explained that Tarot Cards are not her “vibe” and that she doesn’t “believe,” she “knows.” Shayne tells Nik, “I am highly in tuned and in touch with tuition and universe and, yes, I guess you could call it voodoo stuff. Whatever.”

Nik jokingly accused Shayne of having an exorcism performed on her because of the screaming that would occur in her sleep from her dreams, comparing it to an episode of The Shining. Shayne made sure to stop the rumor there, however, saying that she has no been part of one

The exes caught up months ago for an episode of Nik’s podcast where they reconnected and discussed their divorce for the first time.

Watch the full episode here.