In a new episode of her podcast, Sofia Franklyn talks with Lala Kent about the “Vanderpump Rules” drama that went down when Tom and Raquel got busy behind Ariana’s back.

Sofia says, “Could you imagine, someone coming to you about, like, their ups and downs of a relationship, and you sit there and cry with them, you look them in their eyes – while they’re banging your dude?”

Lala agrees, saying, “it is the creepiest shit ever.”