Former First Lady Michelle Obama has opened up about the way it felt to parent small children basically on her own while her husband, President Barack Obama, was launching his political career.

Michelle (58) jokingly said that her daughters Sasha and Malia were “terrorists” when they were little.

“Little kids, they’re terrorists. They have demands. They don’t talk. They’re poor communicators. They cry all the time.” She added, “They’re irrational. They’re needy. And you love them. And so you can’t blame them, right?” She explains, “So you turn that ire on each other.”

She explained that both she and her husband were trying to advance their careers; she had a law career, and he had a political one.

The former First Lady told Revolt earlier this month, “People think I’m being catty for saying this: it’s like, there were 10 years where I couldn’t stand my husband. And guess when it happened? When those kids were little.” She added, “For 10 years, while we’re trying to build our careers and worrying about school and who was doing what and what, I was like, ‘Argh, this isn’t even.'”

Michelle continued, “And guess what? Marriage isn’t 50/50, ever. Ever. There are times I’m 70; he’s 30. There are times he’s 60 or 40. But guess what? Ten years.”

However, Michelle does say that out of their 30 years of marriage; she’ll gladly take 10 years of bad.